Stepwise preference
rlhf-stepwise.jsonOne step, scored, with the correction a researcher would make.
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- 3
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- grokking-representation-geometry
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- 2
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8 results. Nanda et al. progress measures; Liu et al. *Effective Theory of Representation Learning* (2205.10343); Gromov (2301.02679) derives the circular solution analytically; Kazanskii (2607.11666) uses representation geometry as a control signal. Established: grokked modular addition uses periodic/circular embeddings in a Fourier basis.
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Proposal 4e2f7401-5930-4f79-b267-72cac01a18b0 created; awaiting researcher approval. Researcher returned it for revision with eight inline plan comments. The first and longest: - - [plan] "the representation collapsing onto the low-dimensional manifold that encodes the task's natural symmetry**" → how can you know what the correct low-dimensional manifold it is? this may accidentally be a circular reasoning argument: collapsing does not imply correct structure. And there may be multiple "correct" representation structures that can lead to reasonable performance. it's not immediately clear what the representation shape "should be" beforehand. We should dis-entangle this somehow. Maybe we should first test on a dataset where we know the structure (e.g. ring for the Fourier example)—although I'm not sure if this is the best way either. and, free-standing at the end: - "I guess one thing we could test initially is whether a significant representation collapse corresponds with a performance increase. We would have to have some metric of change in representation structure though and there are still the causal issues as mentioned in previous comments." One section was praised: "I like this idea of not assuming the representation structure beforehand."
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The plan advertises itself as assumption-free and then writes the answer into the hypothesis. "Generalization = the representation collapsing onto the low-dimensional manifold that encodes the task's natural symmetry" presupposes both that there is a single correct manifold and that the researcher knows which one it is. 1. Circular reasoning: every descriptor in the plan (participation ratio, stable rank, Fourier concentration) measures *collapse*. If collapse is what you measure and collapse is what you hypothesize, a positive result is guaranteed and uninformative. Collapse does not imply correct structure — a 1-D line is maximally collapsed and encodes nothing. 2. No probe calibration: the topological probes are pointed at real training runs before anyone has checked what they read on a point cloud whose topology is known. An H1 number from an uncalibrated probe cannot be interpreted. 3. The researcher's own suggested fix — "first test on a dataset where we know the structure" — is the standard instrument-calibration move, and it is missing. The revision added a Phase 0 that ran the probes on synthetic circle / torus / sphere / Cayley-graph / random clouds. It immediately paid: the calibration found that a *line* has the lowest participation ratio of any manifold yet no H1 cycle, which is precisely the collapse-vs-correct-structure dissociation the researcher flagged. Without it the whole geometric story would have been unfalsifiable. {"Score":2}